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the obama years. more people are getting heating assistance, cell phones. you name it, you can get more of it in the obama years. point is there is no plan to rein this in. the president is adamantly opposed to any spending cuts or any reining in of these run-away programs. >>gretchen: one in six americans now on food stamps. i think one in four children, i've heard, are on food stamps. >> 19.9 million children are fed by the federal government. >>gretchen: you know what comes to mind is i wonder what president bill clinton thinks about this. he's been an advocate of president obama, obviously helping him get reelected, but he was in charge of welfare reform. a lot of these things have been rolled back. i'm wondering what he thinks about this. >> i don't think he's said anything. he's been a big supporter of president obama in the election campaign last year, but i don't think welfare reform and the reversal of reform ever came up. i don't know what he thinks about this. >>steve: this could be one of the indicators why fitch is talking about down grading the u.s. debt once again. >> pre
districts across the country. the coalition that elected president obama this year more than ever this democratic coalition is bunched into the metropolitan areas. the statistics that jumps out at me is this. in 1988 when michael dukakis got flattened in the presidential race he won over 800 counties nationally. this year getting re-elected by 5 million votes, barack obama won only 690 counties. the democrat vote is so tightly bunched into these areas, you have these wide swaths of district after district after district that do not look like the rest of america, that are not evolving like the rest of america but they're electing conservative republicans whose only fear is not being conservative enough in a primary in a district like that. >> ari, to nia-malika's point earlier, frank luntz talks about presentation and language, but it's about policy, isn't it? if you have got a presidential candidate who recommends self-deportation, if your favored television network insults asians, african-americans routinely, what do you expect immigrants to think of your party? >> i think that's
prison obama done a good job. the cigarette with a man -- it was taken 24 years to do things that he had done things a year back. -- it will do things for him to do things a few years back. host: this is based on an interview that she joined us with that we took on friday forces spent was a of is the program. a new york times reporter writes that -- could you have a constructive dialogue with david keene, and others from the nra? this is going to be a real hearing. we have urged senators on both side of the hearing to be there. yes when not doing this -- he talked abut the agenda. i do not need the extra work for the sake of -- i want a real hearing. i hope we have a real dialogue. host: you can watch it in its entirety 10:00 eastern time, 3:00 eastern on the west coast. we will give you a front row seat to the inaugural ceremonies as we show you pictures from about washington. the are bibles are leo of past ceremonies and you can check of various camera angles as well on c-span. we will have a visual page 4 we will give you the behind-the- scenes photographs. this is the scene from the
cuts. obama talks about the clinton years, but taxes were higher for lower income, families, child credits were not there, and lower rates. what's the problem is it did not apply to people and added layers of complexity to an already ridiculously complex tax code. as an investment advisers you have to deal with rates, created new ones nowings baa there's an additional 3.6, and if you're at this income, there's .9%, and you're creating many more bracts, not -- brackets. there's rates from 0, 5, 15, i think there's a 23.9 all for different levels, and then types of income. buying gold, that's taxed at 5 rate, stocks is ooe thing, and, you know, partnerships, it's totally complicated, and is not going to raise a lot of money versus the progressiveness of the tax code, but the multilayer complexity, a progressive simple tax code would be easier to deal with, remove the deductions and a complicated weird way to analyze the impact and mortgage deduction apply as much. phases out. we have a phase out called amt. neil: bill clinton maybe has the best example. he raised income taxes, but he
children saying president obamaments to continue to borrow trillion dollars a year. it's a two sided coins that they can learn from. >> the interesting thing, neil, about this is when you talk about the kids, we're talking about, you know, of course, the people of five and six years old or 10 or 15 years old, but don't forget, neil, there's generations not born yet. neil: absolutely. >> still the gleam in the eye; right? that's another point to make. i want to touch on something you were just asking charlie about. you know, one interesting thing about the policies of this president, when you think about it, and you think about the demographic groups the president won, young people, women, hispanics, blacks, young blacks, those, if you look at the official statistics, those are the very groups most victimized by the policies in terms of high unemployment and falling incomes. that's ironic as well. neil: i look,and, you know, i guess i could have critics if they didn't like the president using kids, but, first of all, the kids were thre, and their parents let them be there. in fact, a lot of
years ago, i will say in the air and certainly in temperatures of temperature, but certainly the obama administration that hopes maybe coming out of some of the celebration still in the air here they'll start or try to bring the country together. you mentioned that vice-president biden will be going first, in just a few moments, justice sonia sotomayor will swear him in and he and the president will be at arlington national cemetery laying a wreath at the tomb of unknown and in the blue room hine me on the aren't side because the constitution says he needs to be sworn in on january 20th and the ceremonial stuff will happen on the capitol west front tomorrow. some of the celebration started yesterday, a children's inaugural ball the first lady went to along with dr. jill biden and trying to get folks involved this and also the president and first lady participating in a day of service, they participated in a project here, service project here in washington d.c. and they had a lot of cabinet members, the vice-president and others doing that as well and when the president had a chance to
president obama to stop violence. an 11-year-old girl julia wrote she couldn't bear the not of losing her brothers and sisters -- the thought of losing her brothers and sisters to guns. at this morning's announcement, president obama is expected to push for better enforcement for existing gun laws. he can require keeping data on where guns are. the government stopped keeping track nine years ago. when it comes to the background, president obama can push for more sharing of information and prosecution of people who try to buy guns illegally. the president will need congress's approval to get sweeps changes made and that will not be an easy feat, especially with the nra prodding supporters in congress. we'll tang a look at the nra -- take a look at the nra's new ad tackling president obama's gun proposals when i see you next. >> and ktvu will bring you live coverage. he's scheduled to make that announcement at 8:55 this morning our time. ktvu will be streaming the president's remarks live at ktvu.com. >>> it is 7:18. people in the bay area are getting hit hard by one of the worse flu season
to help rescue him. >>> plus, the word came from the white house a short time ago, president obama is about to hold his first new conference of the new year. mornings on 2 begins right now. >>> good morning. welcome to mornings on 2. i'm dave clark. >>> good morning. i'm tori campbell. gunfire at a birthday party capped off another violent weekend in oakland. four people were killed, 11 others wounded. ktvu's tara moriarty is in oakland this morning. she tells us the surge in violence has one city leader calling for a state of emergency. good morning, tara. >> reporter: good morning. the spike in violence did lead to a conference call early saturday morning between the police chief and the mayor. and now the vice mayor is calling for a state of emergency. larry reid says that he thinks that the city has basically gone out of control and he believes mutual aid funds from the state would definitely help the situation. now, the most recent shooting actually happened last night at a birthday party. people scattered and ran to neighbors' houses after someone entered the party and starte
questions about if it's just obama what will happen after four years but particularly you want to see -- how big the this business really be? >> fair enough. >> would you take another meeting, alexa some. >> absolutely. >> monica? >> she said yes. >> all right. good luck with everything. thanks for coming on the program. >> my pleasure. >> and if any of you out there have a product or a service and you want feedback from our elevator pitch panel on your chanceness of getting interested investors, all you have to do is send us an e-mail, your business at msnbc.com. in that e-mail include a short summary of what your company does, how much you're trying to raise and what you intend to do with that money. you never know, if somebody out there watching the show may be interested in helping you. >>> time to answer some of your business questions. alexa and monica are what us once ben. the first question is about changing the way you market your company. >> i do well with in-person, face-to-face networking to grow my business. how i do translate those skills online to reach mother clients and grow
out? >> yeah, this could be 100,000 jobs over the next three years as well. michelle obama was right in saying this is absolutely historic. and it goes back to the fact that veterans have a higher unemployment rate than the broader nonveteran population. it was 12% previously, got down to 10% in 2012, but that compares with nonveterans who have an unemployment rate of 7.9%. if it comes through, it could mean 100,000 new jobs at walmart and would be historic. they already employ about 100,000 veterans out of a total work force of 1.4 million. back to you, bill. >> a great story. cnbc's steve sedgwick live in london. >>> shoot us an e-mail why you're awake waytooearly@msnbc.com. >>> still ahead, lance armstrong comes clean. big surprise, right? telling oprah how he won his seven tour de france victories. >>> and clarence thomas breaks his silence on the bench after seven long years. it must have been really important. we'll tell you what he had to say. >>> and we'll get a check on weather with the lovely dylan dreyer when "way too early" comes right back. >>> a commercial aircraft, a u
] indeed. are you in good hands? >>> while much of the discussion last year over president obama's health care law focused on the individual mandate, less attention was given to the employer mandate and how it affects small businesses and low wage workers? some wendy's and taco bell franchises are now cutting back workers' hours in order to avoid having to provide health coverage. a requirement of the health care law that goes into effect next year. the law will require businesses with more than 50 full-time employees to offer health care or pay a $2,000 fine for not doing so. >> the parent company for olive garden and red lobster has also begun hiring more part-time workers, according to the "new york times". restaurants and hotels are among the industries likely to be squeezed the hardest by the law because they are low-wage industries that do not offer coverage to most of their workers. however, a study by the urban institute said complaints of many business owners were unfounded. while businesses with 100 to 1,000 employees may see cost increases, large businesses were unlikely to be
to washington, d.c. this weekend to attend president obama's second inauguration. among them, a 9-year-old boy from antioch who, as you will see, has a very bright future. he's a fourth grader at cornerstone christian school in antioch. he's an honor roll student and junior olympian. >> i like to play basketball, run track and play football. >> this weekend, he's gonna witness the 50th presidential inauguration in washington, d.c. >> looking forward to meeting new friends. >> he's one of over 300 students invited to be part of the people-to-people ambassador program. his teacher nominated him. >> he's very active. he's always very on his work. he'sdiligent. >> his dad allen told us his son takes his work very seriously. he's even memorized the declaration of independence. and he was some lofty goals. he says some day he would like to be president. but he has some important questions to the person who is currently occupying the white house. [inaudible] >> he might give the president a little work out there playing basketball. this trip was not trip. but he was able to raise over $2700, he colle
on this friday morning as we prepare for president obama's second inauguration. a number of leading magazines focusing on what is next. the next four years is which i say chon science monitor two for the president. tomorrow, saturday is being called a national day of service. the white house ceremony will take place on sunday at noon eastern as the president is sworn in from the blue room of the white house. the president ceremony will take place monday followed by a congressional luncheon and a parade. one question raced by on outgoing president 52 years ago this woke was the role in government in solving america's problems. we'll share with you some of the comments of dwight eisenhower in his farewell address. what is the role in government in solving america's problems. you can join the conversation by giving us a call. you can send us an e-mail at journal at cspan.org. let's begin with the act two second terms for u.s. presidents have been problematic but not cursed. what history will says about how president obama will do. will obama blow another mandate. meanwhile from the hill newspape
in their communities. >>> happening now, the president is kick off his weekend with volunteer work. president obama started the event four years ago to honor dr. martin luther king jr. there are events in washington and in the bay area. we'll have more coming up in about half an hour. >>> as part of the national day of service, there is a blanket drive for the homeless. you can drop off the blankets from 9:00 this morning until 6:00 tonight. >>> in his weekly address, president obama called on congress to pass legislation to stop shootings like the one in connecticut. >> ask your member of congress if they support the ban, and if the answer is no, ask them why not? >> this week, the president asked congress to begin the background checks on the weapons. >>> supporters and opponents of the plan are gearing up for a fight in congress. dozens of groups say they are planning on rallying. >>> more than 100 people turned out for a meeting in connecticut to decide the fate of the school. many of the parents say they believe classes should not be held at the school. the officials say all option are on the
's the total cost of regulations the obama administration created last year alone, according to the american action forum. finally, 73%. new study says that's how much women can lower their risk of heart attack if they just eat onions five times a week. make sure you carry mints with you, ladies. steve? >> steve: what about garlic? mean while, time means everything, right? there are some right times to go shopping for things that you want, so what should you buy right now in january and what should you not buy in january? let's talk to personal finance expert, vera givens. good morning. >> good morning. >> steve: just like we have an agenda, we need stuff. the retailers and service organizations, they've got times when they sell things at special prices and not so special prices. >> the special prices now starting with the exercise equipment. treadmills, ellipticals, apparel. >> steve: is a good time to buy fitness equipment? >> very good time. discounts of 30, 40, maybe 50% off in some instances. so if you lost a few pounds, looking to extend momentum, now would be a very good time to inves
after the top of the hour. the election of barak obama guarantees four more years of government growth, many say. that's mostly due to the landmark health care legislation, the affordable care act. as the bureaucracy gets bigger, your coverage could actually get smaller? here to help us understand the new law, betsy mccoy, author of the book" beating observe observe." you've been an advocate of explaining what observe -- obamacare is all about. >> the book is actually a no spin, easy to understand guide for people who know nothing about health insurance or health care except what they've experienced themselves. but there are big changes ahead for everybody. for example, most americans get their health insurance at work, through their own employer or their spouse's employer. but they may be losing that coverage. >> gretchen: why? >> because the law requires, being in 2014, that employers with 50 or more full-time workers, provide coverage. not just any coverage. the government mandated one size fits all plan, which will cost about twice as much as what many employers currently offer. so
, six years, even before he endorsed barack obama the first time, i would get attacked for associating with colin powell's very conservative with a small "c" realist approach that republican presidents followed for years. it was the weinberger doctrine. it was the reagan doctrine. it was the powell doctrine. and suddenly, it became the doctrine of lefties? >> colin powell is a self-identified republican and has been for many, many years. and with each passing year, with each passing election cycle, the republican party, too many within the republican party, try to further estrange him from the republican party platform, from much of what is said publicly by a lot of republicans. colin powell is also a guy who has the ability and the belief that a lot of republicans -- not a lot -- but too many republicans and too many democrats don't have, he has the ability and the belief to put country ahead of party. and that's unfortunately something that's passe in washington. >> the problem, leigh, though is there are, you know, we're here in new york. or washington or boston or l.a. and the conv
scene. >>> an embarrassing for president obama's jobs council. it has been one year since it held an official meeting. the council will expire at the end of the month unless the president extends it. no comments from the white house on why the council hasn't met in so long. >>> manti te'o staying silent about the dead girlfriend hoax. he cruised by the cameras at the training facility in florida. notre dame says it learned it was a hoax december 6. two days later he was still talking about her death. meantime an unedited transcript of an interview he did shows te'o having a hard time answering simple questions like how they met. multiple reports identify the fake girlfriend as a 23-year-old marketing coordinator from california. >>brian: there is something sweeping the headlining. you know what tebowing is? this is called te'o-ing. >>brian: this other guy took a picture of him looking at an empty shower and says look at my girlfriend naked in the shower. >>gretchen: if it wasn't so sad, it would all be hysterical. >>brian: i don't know how sad it is. she's not dead because she nev
, president obama, president bush, president clinton, all smoked marijuana but are willing to put 750,000 people a year in jail for doing the same exact thing they did they just didn't get busted on. how about prosecuting pot? do you know that it costs us $10,400 every time somebody is arrested. if you're conservative, shouldn't you be outraged by that that we're wasting that kind of money. we waste $7 billion annually on this nonsense, understooding 800 fistula million dollars in courts costs and $3.1 billion in prison costs. it's important to get really dangerous criminals like matthew davies. take a look of this dangerous dangerous man with his family. the biggest drug launderers in the world are the criminals as h.s.b.c., one of the largest banks in the world. our justice democratic said oh, sorry, they're too big to jail. we can't put them in prison, even though they launder mexican drug cartel money. and they put matthew davies in prison. lets bring in matthew's wife and steve raglan is his attorney. thank you for joining us, we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> first of al
are tending the zero graffiti conference. graffiti costs the city of san francisco $20 million a year. san francisco police make more than 250 arrests a year for graffiti related crimes. >>> time is 5:46. president obama's reelection campaign is launching a new nonprofit group to support his second term agenda. the group is called organizing for action. it will be officially announced today. the group is looking to take the energy from the president's reelection campaign and turn it into support for his priorities. first they will encourage supporters to push congress on president's supporters for tougher gun control. scalpers that will try to make a profit on the inauguration tickets will be blocked from craigs list and e-bay. he's in charge of the congressional inauguration committee. now according to the committee, some scalpers have already posted tickets at prices asking for thousands of dollars. some 250,000 tickets were given away for free to the public from congressional offices. ktvu will have live coverage of president obama's inauguration beginning sunday. ktvu tori campbell and
. the republican . -- the republican line. caller: mr. obama, they say it is not his fault. he has had for years. he said he would cut the deficit in half. they passed the deficit a year ago, about cutting this. why is it not being cut now? i have been told both sides are not getting along, but he is the president, and he needs to lead. i do not understand how there are billions of dollars across the world to different countries. i know we do that for specific reasons, but we should be using some of that money to pay our deficits off. what i do not understand is, why are we continuing to do that, to help everybody else out and we should be taking care of our own country? host: let me show you the front page of the new york times. if we can move over -- we will move it over, here it is right here, a wide shot -- will be focusing on senator hagel in a couple of minutes and looking back at some of the things he has said over his tenure in the u.s. senate. that line from "the new york times" -- also from "the hartford courant" -- "the arizona republic repor" -- some local stories, beginning with "th
said, "man, this pepper shaker is so 16-year-old boy with a cheesy mustache." just saying. neil: as we all know president obama likes whole foods especially the arugula. president's health care law after apologizing calling it fascism. he is still not a fan. co-ceo john mackay would like to leave health care to the private sector but have companies that care about people handle it. that was essentially his new book, consensus. conscious capitalism. all about that. this is the guy all about doing the right thing. john, good to have you. >> thanks, good to be here, neil. neil: we were briefly trying to get to the bottom of the break when you started to getting vocal on these issues. i think you always have been. you have a very strong point of view when it came to the role of government and the private sector. what brought it out or got it really big? was it the campaign? >> i don't think so. i mean, i was very concerned about the health care law. i thought it was going to be bad for business. >> why? >> it will drive up costs. neil: you saw that a lot sooner than a lot of ceos. what got
was the first direct flight since they canceled service to tokyo seven years ago. reporting live in san jose lorraine blanco ktvu channel 2 news. >>> time is 6:07. this morning at the white house president obama will unvail his plan to reduce gun violence. the president among other things wants congress to ban assault weapons. he wants limits on high capacity ammunition clips. he wants to require background checks on anyone who buys -- >>> we want to go to sal. he has an update on that police activity. >> that is right. this is what happened a big rig driver reported he thought he had been shot at on the freeway on 238. he pulled off to one of the city streets. chp is investigating. they are going to take a report now. we'll see if it turned out to be gunshots or something else. the freeway is not effected but the city street nearby you may see a big rig pulled over with a couple chp officers. let's take a look at the bay bridge. you're getting a little bit of a backup in some of the lanes. westbound coming into san francisco not a big delay. and if you are driving in san francisco along nor
. the year rising. we are back now. i want to get your reaction, if i may, as to what is your reaction to these reports that the white house, the obama administration was cautioning the algerian government on how to respond to this hostage taking and this group of terrorists? >> i think that is probably exactly right. i think the algerians are very experienced people at fighting, and they don't give a lot of time to develop. i think it is probably very crude to say that i think the algerians value that gas production more than the people that were being held hostage. there were very worried about the plan being destroyed. i think that i why they moved right away. >> they were concerned, and i heard it in my debate. the americans and the french could do it. there was a draw fying. special forces moving. they looked very conceed that we would go in and therefore they could not absorb a politically. they went. lou: ignored by washington, european capitalists. >> what i think the algerians understood, knowing what they know about those g how this, if they don't terminate the issue very qui
do in the opposition party. >> oh, okay. >> in congress. this is going back for the last many years. >> yeah. >> all the republicans in the senate voted for increases when bush was in office. they vote against it when obama is in office. and vice versa. the problem or challenges now is the house where republicans don't want to vote for it and we need them, you know, it is sort of a luxury you have when the opposition controls the house. you can vote against it and have a nice little sort of moral standing there but the business of the country goes on. we are in a situation where if the house gop doesn't do something, then we have a real problem. >> yeah. the difference there just to be clear to everybody, it's not just that the opposition party has traditionally voted as a matter of protest against raising the debt ceiling. the norm changed is that house republicans demanded specific concessions in exchange for raising the debt ceiling, not just casting symbolic votes but saying we want trillions of dollars in cut, billions of dollars in cuts. that's new, using the debt ceiling as a
at the school and shot another 16-year-old student in the chest. prosecutors say they will try him as an adult. the victim in the case is expected to recover despite suffering critical injuries. >>> president barack obama is reviewing gun safety proposals for vice-president joseph biden and his panel. and the president could make an executive order by the end of this week. as kyla campbell reports, one republican congressman is threatening impeachment. >> reporter: dave people who support gun rights say president barack obama's support for gun orders threaten their rights. since the shooting in newtown connecticut many are vowing to make stricter gun laws and they will make an executive order meaning congress has no say. texas is starting to begin impeachment procedures to stop the president and vice- president joseph biden is expected to put through a new ban on weapons and universal background checks. but the president says it is not the same as taking citizens guns away. other gun advocates are creating fear and it is a good way to drum up business. >> even the slightest hint of some sensib
over for a year and a half. now i understand moral high ground. it's with us every day. let's look at health care. today there was an op-ed in "the wall street journal" about the cost of obama care. there's continuing articles on the cost of dodd-frank, transactions for real estate. in the end, the moral high ground is a very big argument. steve liesman's center piece was, how the spin, so to speak, is going to be about the word default. and he's absolutely right. there's a certain default on interest payments. that's a legal default. but when you don't send the checks to people on social security or medicare or you don't send checks to veterans or you don't keep veterans hospitals open, that's a moral issue. it's going to be impossible to beat that. and in the end it comes down to a philosophical argument nobody really wants to have. and when we have it, people make fun of the argument. but the argument is, socialism. to help the collective by doing something to the few is the very cornerstone of socialism. whether right or wrong. there's a moral high ground that we're that going
is out of control. up five points from two years ago. 69% of those surveyed say the debt limit should only be raised after major cuts. aides to the number two senate republicans does not support giving president obama a blank check but told "houston chronicle" editorial board, "we will raise the debt ceiling. we are not going to default on our debt." he went on to say "i tell you unequivocally we are not going to default." cornyn notes there will be tax revenue coming in and said it may be necessary to partially shut down the government to secure the long-term fiscal well-being of the country. white house aides just want congress to get it done. >> the point is without drama and delay, monthly extension is drama. okay? so congress should do its job. we're not going to negotiate over extending the debt ceiling. >> though the house is planning something short-term to force the senate to the a budget. >> just the structure, moving something on a shorter term, what we are discussing is something that all could support. it's reasonable. but also very constructive for america themselves. >>
be the case. we're learning president obama will hold his first news conference of his second term, certainly of the new year, 2013, that will happen 11:15 this morning in the east room. it is an open press event. perhaps the reason for this is his push on immigration. we may hear some of that at the top of this news conference what he hopes to accomplish there in terms of comprehensive immigration reform. no doubt there will be questions though about the debt ceiling and how the president expects to make up those revenues, whether he will try to do that to increase taxes one form or another. there will be a lot of questions this morning perhaps on afghanistan as well. that comes up 1:15 this morning and that comes up here on fox news. bill: you wonder if his answers parallel with what senator lee was talking about or whether they go in an entirely different direction. that is where the battle lines draw on this new term. martha: correction. this will be the last press conference of the last term because the inauguration is coming up. bill: duly noted. a week from today, "america's newsroom"
his plan to curb gun violence to president obama tomorrow. one city is apparently not waiting around for washington act. chicago quickly becoming ground zero in the debate on gun control. that city saw more than 500 murders last year, prompting mayor rahm emanuel to take action with a gun control plan of his own. steve brown is live in chicago right now, but i guess mayor emanuel is not. he is in d.c. today suggesting democratic strategy to try to get gun control accomplished, is that right, steve? >> reporter: in a sense yes, it was part of the discussion at a public revent held in washington that mayor emanuel took part in. local press was made aware of it well in advance. it touches on the city's most dramatic problem which is gun violence in this city. you mentioned over 500 homicides. just this past weekend, three more homicides, two of them teachers, all gun related. emanuel suggested in the d.c. forum the best course of action for greater gun control measures is to force the house's hand. >> start in the senate. that is where you get your best leverage and clear the deck and h
. and antitraffic and legislation to impose stiffer penalties on gun sellers, and the source says obama will not announce 19 executive actions but those he will choo is prosecuting people who failed background checks, 71,000 did that last year. lied on their background check. more work on mentality health, school security, although not arming guards. and'm examining video games. that a whole other situation we'll get into in a minute. what do you think of the chance office these getting through the body you just left, congressman? >> it's really wild talking about overreach, and let me talk about the democrats for just a sac. because hari reid talks about the assault weapon ban and the chance office his being able to get through the united states senate which is controlled by the democratic majority. he said it ain't going to happen. he said look at the red state senators who are up for re-election in north carolina, or out west, or down south, wherever they're from. and that what i'm talking not terms of overreach. if this was something close the loophole on gun shows, catch the 40% of
to achieve over the next four years? guest: i think it signals two things. one signals that he wants an independent, no-nonsense voice at the table on the president. senator chuck hagel has had a close relationship with president obama. and i happen to know from a number of sources that the quality of conversation, that the nature of their conversation is a very direct, often not in agreement and that the president is not bringing on board a yes man. the second thing we need to know is that we have been dealing with chuck hagel and a way that we ought to be debating the secretary of state. this will be the secretary of defense. this is about deploying power or run the world and managing strategic assets and managing a shift where the president has said that we now have or did we have overweighted our resources in the middle east and south asia and we have underweighted our presence in asia looking at china. that shift is like moving a giant ship of spending, resources, american men and women being deployed in different places, as well as strategic asset purchasing, what weapons and t
our particular feelings are. here's another question that we should be asking ourselves now. 40 years from now, historians will be looking back on our time. or 60 years from now. and what will they say about how we responded to this? it's not just about president obama. it's about all of us. >> or how we didn't respond to it. >> we're all on a dock here. and i think that's the question that we have to ask ourselves. and it has to be asked across the political and the cultural spectrum including the people who feel that they have a right to own an assault weapon and the people in their community who feel that they don't have a right to. there has to be this dialogue across the country in small western communities, in the south and in the big cities as well. as reverend al knows, there's no greater carnage from guns than in the inner cities of america. >> absolutely. >> 506 homicides last year in chicago, most of them in the inner city. >> i've just been reading about -- you all remember nickel mines, the shooting there, which was actually a handgun. it highlights -- and that was, i don
know that there is anywhere near true. >> i think barack obama agreed with me, the debt ceiling is there for a reason. it forces us to have this discussion. if we didn't have it, we would blow through it like we did for many years. yes, we're doing it differently now. we're talking about the debt ceiling in term of ways to have a discussion and reduce spending. is that different than it has been over the last 30 years? yes, but thankfully so. maybe if we had these discussions for the last 30 years we wouldn't be looking at $6 trillion in debt. we've done it to ourselves but this is the future and perhaps rightly so until we get things straightened out. >> we'll keep a close eye. thanks for coming to the camera. >> thanks for having me. >> still, the cost of america's crumbling of infrastructure. we're back in a moment. >> announcer: this cnbc program is sponsored by audi, truth in engineering. [ engine revs ] come in. ♪ got the coffee. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ the street." i'm michelle caruso cabrera. a report just came out that shows how costly
obama inaugural, they're very much resigned to a pretty difficult time economically. there isn't nearly the sort of hope that you had in 2009 when we asked people is 2013 going to be a year of economic expansion and opportunity or where where you pull back and stay for hard times? by two to one, people say they're going to pull back and save for hard times. president obama's approval rating is over 50%, it's at 52%. not bad. but not a real spike as sometimes you get with a re-elected president who benefits from the absence of bad feeling once the election is over. he's doing a little better, but he only moves in a narrow band. republicans or the congress, rather, is doing much, much worse. you see the approval rating for congress. it's only 14%. 81% disapprove of congress. that is epically bad and it shows the president has a bit of a strength in hand as he goes into the budget talks. so does this final number that i want to run through, which is if the budget talk fails, the debt limit is not raised and if there are consequences for the united states not meeting its obligations, who wo
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